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Jun 21Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

And you know what? Reverse expating is also hard. I am back in Germany after living abroad in the US, Wales and Canada. And now it also feels like I don’t fully belong here.

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And this... this is the real truth. And this is why a sense of home and true belonging is elusive for so many who have lived this type of life. I can think that Germany WOULD be a tough readjustment in SO many ways after America. My husband still struggles some day (he feels caged in by the system, I think that's the best way to describe it - he's German but lived in the US and Canada for 12 years). I hear you. Thank you for commenting. I truly appreciated it.

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Jun 22Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Then you must exactly know how I feel! There are so many things I love about Germany over North America. Or more so about Europe. But what I miss the most is the friendliness, which is no surprise ;-) I also think that when you live abroad, you leave a piece of yourself there when you leave again. I don’t know that I will ever feel fully at home again anywhere. But that’s okay! My personality is now made up of so many different parts, I have immersed myself in so many different cultures.

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Beautifully said. When we moved to Hamburg from the States, it took me a whole five years to regain my self esteem and become what I called, " militantly friendly" - meaning I was going to be friendly no matter how people reacted. It was a turning point for me in regaining my autonomy - and while I do miss friendliness in general here ( less in the south because people here are more apt to greet and smile), I'm much stronger knowing who I am has got nothing to do with who they are.

Home is such a deep and complicated subject and I feel compelled, after this comment thread, to wrote more about it. Danke, liebe Katharina. Ich wünsche dir ein schönes Wochenende 🧡

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Jun 22Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Dir auch ein schönes Wochenende :)

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Jun 23Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

So true! I didn’t last long returning to my home country, it didn’t feel right anymore, sort of a culture whole of that makes sense. 17 months and I was off again.

Now enjoying being very settled in country number 6. Thanks for your words Diana, beautifully written and heartfelt. Walking in the shoes of the brave people who walked before us and gave us the opportunities we have today xx

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Thank you, Julie, so much. It feel like this thread is just a shower of love on us all who have lived through the sense of alienation both abroad and at home. There are so many of us. And we are a growing group.

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Jun 25Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

It seems so, it's great to see this acknowledged. It's easy to feel like it's just you! I make homes where ever I go. Homes where people are welcome. My people seldom come to my homes, except if they live close by. Other people come and we celebrate our uniqueness, share stories and enjoy each others company. Those people have experienced expat life and often felt disconnected. We pick up where we left off, no matter how long it's been. A gift.

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Jun 23Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Culture shock

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Jun 23Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

So true. And it doesn't take long. A year here and a year there and I can never forget the way my bones relaxed in Portugal or the smell of the everything of turn of the millennium Mumbai. It's true from region to region, too. Ten years in Maine has me waking up every day disoriented in Oregon.

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Leela 🧡. You hit on something here - early morning expat disorientation! It's a thing! I wake up and often my first though is WHERE AM I? Bones relaxing -it's a luxury for this lifestyle, isn't it? Thank you for coming and commenting!

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Jun 25Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

This is so true. I feel like I don't belong anywhere now. It's such a tough truth.

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You belong with everyone on this thread. A band of brave ones, we are 🧡

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🫶🥹 we sure are.

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Reverse expating! So true!

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So true, right?!?

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I want to say that the thread of comments on this post are so rich and deep and beautiful. I'm in awe of all of you. Thank you for making this post more than I ever could have made it myself. Long live expating. Long live the love of our ancestors.

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Ah, this hit home. So beautifully written, Diana, thank you!

I have lived in several countries and I so much understand of not belonging anywhere completely, any more. Or, on a more positive note, having many homes... with every visit I go home and then I return home, too :)

But the truth is, the older I get, the more I miss my "original" home, the sounds, the sun, the architecture, the way people communicate... although so much has actually changed there, too...

I remember how one of my great aunts who moved to the USA to be there with her daughter and take care of the grandchildren, by the end of her life more than anything just wanted to go back to Croatia and die at her home. So strong was the longing for the place where she grew up, even though she lived at many different places and countries throughout her life. And she did it, she returned home with the last of her strength. I can understand her now more than I could ever before.

And when the rain can't seem to stop and the grey, wet and cold Belgian weather drags on, I so much miss the warmth of my home, my sun and the sea. Luckily, in a few weeks I will be on my way there and will then, probably, be complaining about the unbearable heat :)

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I love what you wrote here. It's just all so true. Every move is packed, not only with belongings, but also with emotions and feelings and joy and pain. Unpacking those things is something that takes time and reflection. I'm so happy your great aunt got her wish. 🧡

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Jun 21·edited Jun 22Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Loved this look into your experience and family! My family’s immigrant experience is similar. My great grandfather emigrated from Sicily, was illiterate in both Italian and English, and fought for the US in WW1. I can’t imagine.

There’s a great podcast out right now called “Pack One Bag” about a Jewish-Italian family fleeing to Paris and then the US during Mussolini’s regime.

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Thank you dear Jennifer. Oh, that podcast sounds very interesting.

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Jun 22Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Sounds like our ancestors have a lot in common. Thank you for the podcast recommendation.

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That sounds really interesting! I’m going to look up that podcast now, Jennifer! Thank you for sharing

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Jun 21Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Well done as usual Diana! Since I never really felt I belonged in the U.S. being an immigrant in Portugal isn’t that much of a stretch on the not fitting in scale😆. Even after 3 ½ years here and pretty much taking classes for 3 of those years I still struggle with learning the language. Nothing seems to stick in my brain. Goes in then right out again. Ugh. But I wouldn’t want to go back to my homeland to live. Too much has changed on too many levels.

Can’t believe we haven’t connected yet. I’ll take all responsibility for that. But I shall rectify the situation soon. Sending love and wishing you both a happy anniversary again❤️❤️❤️

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Let's make up for lost time soon. We would love to see you and miss you so much. Portugal pros: all the things. Portugal cons: even the thought of learning the language would give me a nervous breakdown 😂

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Jun 23·edited Jun 23Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Hi Diana, your words are so tender and sensitive to your ancestors. Our story is like yours, one of good fortune, not necessity. My husband and I (now 73 and 70) just bought a home in the countryside north of Florence (our address is Pistoia, Italy) in February, a dream of ours for almost 20 years. But as you have said, living in Italy (or likely any foreign country) is not like vacationing in Italy! On holiday, you don't have to set up internet, utilities, bank accounts and manage plumbers, electricians and broken appliances in a foreign language. (One day we will so appreciate this!) We spent 7 weeks and it reminded me of having my first newborn, blissfully in love with our home and Italy and pinching ourselves that we actually made this happen. Just like a new baby, it is a new life within us. But like the sleepless nights, the not knowing what to do when the baby won't stop crying because the baby speaks its own language, the exhaustion, the amount of time a newborn requires, managing the nursing...all this...felt like setting up a life in Italy. Not to mention praying for the Visas, permits to stay, residency applications, attorneys and accountants to set up my work in Italy. Why this self-flagellation and punishment?! Because we are compelled to grow. Because it is Italy and all that we love about it. The natural beauty that is everywhere, the people, the built landscapes like Rome and Florence, the art that belongs to everyone, the myths passed down through the generations, the culture of family, the innocence of the Italian children, the meals in a restaurant without cell phones, a health care system that is humane, the quality of the food, certainly the cost of living. And because the United States has become a place I don't know anymore. And it makes me sad. Especially for my 93-year old mom who loves her country deeply but now feels afraid of what is happening in the US. So, we make our homes where we find them. So many of us are nomads today. I have live in at least 28 different homes SINCE I left college in 1975. I love to make a home and eventually made it my work as an interior designer. It doesn't matter where I am; I will find beauty (as it is meaningful to me) and a way to make a place true unto itself. And yet, the older I get, the more clearly I understand we carry this within us, less and less tethered to the material world. Godspeed on all your journeys!

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Alecia, thank you for your beautiful comment and congratulations on making your dream become a reality. It's full of hurdles and obstacles, I know. But it is a growth path like no other. Etruscan Italy is amazingly rich. It's a very special part of the country. And the US has become unrecognizable in so many ways - the actual reason behind this reverse immigration. So much to learn here. Thank you for coming and commenting 🧡

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Jun 22Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

This resonated really deeply. My Italian great-grandparents also came from Emilia-Romagna, same timeframe but a few years earlier. I often think about what my great-grandfather, Arsenio, would think now of me trying to get Italian citizenship so I can move to the country he left over a hundred years ago. It's a really weird mind warp. I think of how he and his wife, Emeline, didn't teach their children Italian so that they'd be truly 'American' and how I now work on learning Italian in my spare time. I think of how me, with my highly Italian name, are more ethnically Slavic than anything else. I have no answers, but thought your piece articulated this construct very well.

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So many parallels, Marissa. My parents did not teach my sister and I Italian because they were so humiliated to not understand English when they entered school. It's a definite mind-warp, and a true indication of how everything has changed globally. Thank you for your presence here ❤️

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Yes, my father’s parents would not teach him Italian either as they were ridiculed in school for not being able to read or write English.

I too am working on my Italian Citizenship, but running into issues with my grandfather’s birth certificate as Louisiana did not begin to keep consistent records until after 1911 and he was born in 1904. I have his actual baptism certificate- the church of course kept records.

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Jun 21Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Diana- wow. I echo all the above and— hells to the yes !!!to you singing in your car— that makes me so happy. The first essay of yours I read was about your car and this feels full circle to me now that I have heard the music in your speaking voice and in your stunning writing. And you in your car, while nowhere quite home, seems very much home in yourself. What a legacy your grandparents gave you.

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God Emily! You and your close readings! Yes! The car is just that. I mean for Americans, I think, the car has a very special context that has to do with freedom and independence. That's just a fact ( OK not great for the environment, not sustainable,and it's a little fucked up as a symbol because of those things). And I am the girl/woman in the car. And will be for as long as I can. Love you girl! 🧡🧡🧡

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💜💜💜💜

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Jun 21Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Diana, this was just beautiful. A feast of words. I especially loved:

"You cannot become what you never were."

"There are edges and off-key tones of expat life that scrape the soul like falling off a bike on a gravel road."

"How did it feel, Nonna, with a baby in your belly on a boat by yourself? I wish I could just hold you and comfort you and let you rest." This one really got me. I could just feel your love and longing.

"I tell my new car to fuck off, because it’s my life, Jon Bon Jovi just told me so, and this is what it takes to remember who I am." This one made me laugh but was also so starkly real and raw. Love that juxtaposition of emotions, almost like a slap that last phrase. In a good way. ;)

You brought tears to my eyes today, Diana. Thank you for this beautiful testament to your family and all the humans who have struggled to make a life -- and to all the humans who see that struggle and honor it with their own freedom. ❤️🙏

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Oh, Jocelyn, this is so kind of you. Thank you for sharing your close reading. It makes me understand my own words even more. Thank you. From my heart.

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Jun 21Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

You are so welcome and I love that it gave you a new or more understanding. I love having close reads of my work. They are so illuminating. ❤️❤️❤️

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Jun 21Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Jocelyn and I had the same experience reading this— I cried too! And you captured some of the gorgeous bits that set me off. Yes!

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Wheee! It's delightful to see you here, Emily! There were so many gorgeous bits and the whole was just so moving. The feelings of groundedness and also longing and uprootedness throughout were so well balanced.

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….and you just described Diana! ( happy to see your familiar face here, too. )💜

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Jun 23Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Very interesting. I think because the U.S. is and always been a net immigration country, something about leaving it feels wrong. I left for Sweden in 2019 because my life wasn’t working and that it wasn’t my America anymore. I think about these questions of cultural identity all the time.

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Yes - net immigration country coupled with the fact that most Americans simply reject out of hand the idea that life can be better anywhere, ever. It makes the US insufferable.

I met my husband at Ikea. He was sent by the company to open the first US store and I was one of the first people hired by Ikea in the US. Sweden played a huge roll in changing my world view. We still have very close Swedish friends and travel there occasionally. 🧡

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Jun 23Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

What a cool story! Look me up next time you’re here. But hurry up — winter is coming…

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😂😂😂 midsommar's over...

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Jun 22Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Bravo, what a great reminder of what our relatives faced and put up with to give us choice. My grandmother came over on a ship at four. My grandfather was born a year or so after his parents arrived. They grew up in the Little Italy neighborhood of New Orleans (Lakeview) and were farmers until one year all of their crops flooded over and my grandfather had to go work at a macaroni factory and my grandmother in the mail department at Maison Blanche even though she could not read or write English. They were ridiculed in schools and called WOPs (without papers). Yet they worked, owned real estate, rented rooms to Jazz musicians and cooked the most delicious Italian dishes with “red Gravy” as they called it.

My dad was the first one in Little Italy to graduate from High School and everyone in the neighborhood pitched in to buy him a gold and diamond ring which I wear today. He joined the army, graduated college while waiting tables and supporting my older siblings and became a chemist and lived until 91. I had both the privilege of my grandparents love and my father as an inspiration and feel grateful for it. And although I love Italy, when we are not in the US, we spend our time in Portugal enjoying a more simple life that I wish they all could have experienced.

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So I learned something from you. WOP. Without papers. That answers something for me. I remember telling my maternal grandfather I had been called a wop in school and he became viscerally upset. This was the grandfather who came to New Orleans illegally on a boat in my post. I never knew the meaning behind this slur. Thank you. My God. There's enough information and history in this thread to write a book!

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Yes, I hadn’t known the meaning of the term WOP until a few years ago when my friend the author Elisa Speranza (The Italian Prisoner based on a true story of Italian POWs marrying young Italian American women in New Orleans) shared it with me.

In New Orleans there was this fast track process to bring people over from Sicily from the U.S. I found this book called Bread and Respect (sounds like the authors were copying Puzo - lol) that said Louisiana created its own department of immigration in response to the Louisiana Sugar Planters need for labor. Estimates are that nearly 100,000 Italian Immigrants arrived at the port of New Orleans before The U.S. immigration act of 1924 ended this process. I saw a chart once that showed as a percentage of immigration, the Sicily to New Orleans is one of the largest migrations in our country’s history.

Diana, yes, I see a book in the making - the stories of our ancestors paired with our current story and desire to reverse migrate. With your gorgeous writing, it would be wonderful.

Thanks everyone for sharing your stories.

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Jun 23Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

I never knew the meaning behind WOP. I always thought it was an Americanized version of an Italian word.

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I thought something similar. This thread is golden!

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Jun 22Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

How strange — I clicked on your essay because I may well become an expat for the third time in my life. You speak so cogently about the belonging thing — it’s one reason why I came back to New York a few years ago: I’m fluent in New York.

Anyway the odd thing is that my ancestors — some of them — came from Genoa to New York, too! A little bit before yours did.

And I always wanted to live in the Black Forest in Germany.

Small world!

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Oh I hope your third expat experience will be wonderful! You've surely built a strong set of adjustment and coping skills which will help so much. I'm happy I've been able to get to know the city of Genoa well; I feel an immense connection to that place because of my family history. It's a remarkable city. The Black Forest is an incredible place to live. It's hard to express its richness and beauty. Thank you so much for reading and commenting, Susan. 🧡🧡🧡

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Jun 21Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

What a wonderful tribute to those who came before you. 😊 Moving to Germany (and integrating) was one of the most difficult things I have ever done… and there are still days when I’m really over it but somehow it gets better with each year.

Unfortunately I don’t know any details of my family history but it does help to sometimes imagine the hardships they must have faced both in Europe and in making a new their new life in the U.S.

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Chesica, I honestly thought relocating to Germany would be pretty easy, which was one of the biggest miscalculations of my life. 😂 it's hard here in ways you can't know until you actually do the move. It does get easier with time. Expectations change and we meet like minded people on occasion, right? Thank you for reading and commenting 🧡🧡

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Jun 21Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

Lovely piece,thank you Diana, I found tears rolling down my cheeks

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Thank you so so much for telling me that, Mary Jane. It's a very visceral and personal subject, how we each live with the lives we've created here. 🧡

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Jun 21Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

I’m meeting so many Italo Americans and Canadians on this cruise who are reconnecting with their families who left 2 generations ago… so many who never learned Italian but want that connection . Some heartbreaking stories and hardships so the new generation could integrate and make better , easier lives.

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Wonderful. Just wonderful.

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This is beautiful writing, Diana. Perspective is everything. Thank you for sharing yours. It matters greatly. ❤️

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Thank you thank you, Andrea. Perspective truly is everything. I love you.

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Jun 25Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

I am an immigrant not an expat - maybe that’s why I had a smooth adjustment here overall. Once my son was born here and my parents died in Boston, I decided I was no more an expat but an immigrant and it made it so much easier to fall into the lifestyle here and just be ME. I think being an expat feels like having an affair. You have a husband and a lover. You feel divided between the long term relationship and stability at home but dazzled by the incredible newness of the affair partner. Then when the newness and sex high wear off and you have your first fight you want to end it and go back to the stable partner. When you have options it’s hard to commit to one thing. We live in a gigantic cereal aisle of life these days. How can you make a choice? Our ancestors had no choice. One cereal. Make the most of it. Nowadays we can move anywhere and drive huge internet businesses and people are making 5 million on an ecourse about surface pattern design. I mean… it’s wonderful but leads to a hell of a lot of discomfort and FOMO and never feeling really comfortable or grounded because the car is always running in the driveway….

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Such an interesting comment Holly. I think the key is really being ourselves. And this takes time after having the proverbial cultural rug pulled out from under us. Gaining emotional, mental and financial stability in a foreign country is like laying thd cornerstones for a good / survivable experience. And all of that stems from from doubling down to be exactly who we are in this new and constantly changing world. Love you! 🧡

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Jun 25Liked by Diana Strinati Baur

I don’t feel like I personally had it better in the states because I never really felt at home anywhere in my life until now. I wanted to live in Europe since I was 12. I always saw my future here. And when I landed in Boston in 2022, to say goodbye to my mom who was dying, I knew I was no longer an expat but an immigrant and I wouldn’t move back. When I got on the plane I told the airline attendant I couldn’t wait to go back home. When my plane landed in Germany I looked out the window and cried because I knew I was finally home. I think the feeling comes from having close friends here but also my son being born here - it is so emotional for me - Hannover… I have a huge emotionally attachment here to my life and lifestyle. It feels wonderful to know that I don’t have to search anymore for „my spot“, it’s here. And maybe I’ll get a summer home in another country but Hannover will always be my base. 😻

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I think my being led to Ikea as my employer at the age of 26 was because I also didn't feel at home in my country of birth. I felt more comfortable around all the Swedes and Dutch and Germans that came over to start Ikea USA. And that job eventually led me to Michael and living on both coasts and then Europe.

Every expat story is so different and interesting. I believe we really don't always get what we want, but rather what we need, as Mick tells us. 🧡

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Yeah it sure is ❤️

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